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author | mms <michal@sapka.me> | 2024-06-30 20:06:29 +0200 |
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feat(blog): are the LLMs worth it
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diff --git a/content-org/blog.org b/content-org/blog.org index 39fa134..39a4e70 100644 --- a/content-org/blog.org +++ b/content-org/blog.org @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ #+HUGO_WEIGHT: auto #+HUGO_SECTION: blog -* 2024 [43/44] :@blog: +* 2024 [44/45] :@blog: :PROPERTIES: :EXPORT_HUGO_SECTION: blog/2024 :EXPORT_HUGO_CUSTOM_FRONT_MATTER+: :image_dir "blog/images" :image_max_width 600 @@ -64,6 +64,118 @@ There will be no official XMPP bridge anytime soon, and therefore there will be What we need is a great product /We've got the technology/. + +** DONE Are the LLMs worth it? +CLOSED: [2024-06-30 Sun 20:06] +:PROPERTIES: +:EXPORT_FILE_NAME: are-llms-worth-it +:EXPORT_HUGO_CUSTOM_FRONT_MATTER: :abstract The only way to fight I see +:END: + +Recently, half of my waking time seems to be spent actively ignoring the current AI boom. +Every investor, every product, even some open source project - all are part of the biggest craze I've ever witnessed. +My skepticism for all this /crap/ doesn't come from being against the idea behind it. +I love AI, but LLMs are different. + +How do you measure if something is worth it? +I guess it's something akin to a simple equation: + + +#+begin_src shell + c = v * N +#+end_src + +Where +c - cost +v - value +N - your personal acceptance factor + +So, a product is worth the cost, if it gives enough value based on how much you are willing accept. +What is the cost? +It's hard to tell. +What is value? +It's even harder to tell. + +When it comes to LLMs, the cost is /huge/. +It may very much be the most costly tech we will see in our lives. +It costs very little when we limit ourselves to /monetary value/. +It's a few bucks here, a few bucks there. +Anyone into subscriptions most likely already has bigger sinkholes. + +But that approach is significantly shortsighted; reduced to minimum. +The actual cost of the technology is far more reaching. + +Firstly, the development. +VCs all around the globe can't throw their money fast enough. +It seems that just adding "AI" to a shampoo gives significant chance of a hefty A series. +So much of the current world economy is based on the idea that one day all that investment will be paid. +Just look at the stock value of Nvidia! +It seems that just yesterday they were known primarily for overpriced graphic card for gamers. +But they were lucky, their product powered the last two big crazes - first crypto, now LLMs. + +The second aspect of this part of life cycle is the man power. +Just how many engineers are now tasked with integrating every, imaginable system with ChatGPT? +And how many product managers are forced to think of an idea of what that integration is supposed to do? +Those product are, almost aways, /worse/ in the process. +Even something as simple as Expensify became unusable when they changed their product into a chatbot. + +And then comes the running cost that will be paid by our children. +The environmental impact is unimaginable. +We're producing huge amounts of air pollution, using water and rare minerals like there's no tomorrow. +For the last century or so, we've abused our planet, but then we've decided that enough is enough. +Time to think of survival and become /green/. +All this is thrown out the window. +No survival of human race will stop Altman from becoming a multi billioner! + +Then there are the social costs. +We're just starting to see them, but it's already dreadfully. +LLM companies are treating all human creation as a free buffet, ignoring everything we've had before. +The web, as we grew to know and love, may soon come to an end. +Sometimes even I have hard time justifying existence of this site. +I have a lot of fun, do something here almost daily. +But in reality I make the /assholes/ richer, as they will harvest everything here and put in their huge data models. + +And, of course, people are starting to lose their jobs. +Not that many yet, as the CEOs need to be crazy enough, but it's starting. +And it will only get worse, as more and more product /promise/ automation. +Most likely it will happen before the promise is fulfilled, but that's beside the point. + +The costs are huge, but what are the benefits? +I've tried to read what all the proponents say, and the responses I've found differ very slightly: +some small auto generation, here and there. +Nothing grand, a few dozen minutes of manual labor each time - unless we're talking about image/multimedia generation. +You ma even get what you want it to be, assuming you've already got some experience in prompting. +Mind you, when an LLM works, it works like magic. +It is, however, not the case most of the time. +You get a result, you try to convince the machine that there is something wrong, you get a result, you find something and so on. +Up until it's ready for manual fixes. + +Looking at this, we've got a huge =c=, very small =v=. +If you say that this is worth it, your =N= needs to be huge. + +But there's this notion, that we're just at the start. +We've got the first version and there will be huge breakthroughs soon. +Either the cost needs to be decreased, or the value needs to skyrocket. +Both are possible. +There's enough money thrown for there to be more people working on those problems than there are scientists working on curing cancer. +Will they achieve anything of value? +We can /guess/, but guessing will not change the fact, that the current [[https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5][bullshit machines]] are *not* worth it. + +But let's be realistic here: betting on /scientific breakthrough/ is not something a sane mind should do. +Especially not one data-driven! +Events like this rarely happen, and the unravel ChatGPT 2 proved that we've already witnessed one, just a few short years ago. +The next one may take years, or decades. +We will be paying the cost until the LLM craze ends, and perhaps it will not even destroy us before that. + +Personally, I am sure that AI Winter is inevitable. +And it will be winter like we've never seen before, as never before so much money was thrown into furnace. +There are /great/ uses of AI - just think of image recognition, or weather forecasting. +All of this may be lost, as one fucking Altman stole all the air from the room, just to burn us all in the process. +I am afraid that the winter will not only stop significant work on LLMs, but for general Artificial Intelligence. + +Note, that I ignore all the /risks/ here, and just look a the technology. +But the costs are even higher, as we should put things which it enables - disinformation for one. + ** DONE LLM honeypot CLOSED: [2024-06-28 Fri 14:14] :PROPERTIES: @@ -3506,3 +3618,4 @@ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwz-Md6OoyA + diff --git a/content/blog/2024/are-llms-worth-it.md b/content/blog/2024/are-llms-worth-it.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..53c9022 --- /dev/null +++ b/content/blog/2024/are-llms-worth-it.md @@ -0,0 +1,112 @@ ++++ +title = "Are the LLMs worth it?" +author = ["MichaĆ Sapka"] +date = 2024-06-30T20:06:00+02:00 +categories = ["blog"] +draft = false +weight = 2002 +abstract = "The only way to fight I see" ++++ + +Recently, half of my waking time seems to be spent actively ignoring the current AI boom. +Every investor, every product, even some open source project - all are part of the biggest craze I've ever witnessed. +My skepticism for all this _crap_ doesn't come from being against the idea behind it. +I love AI, but LLMs are different. + +How do you measure if something is worth it? +I guess it's something akin to a simple equation: + +```shell +c = v * N +``` + +Where +c - cost +v - value +N - your personal acceptance factor + +So, a product is worth the cost, if it gives enough value based on how much you are willing accept. +What is the cost? +It's hard to tell. +What is value? +It's even harder to tell. + +When it comes to LLMs, the cost is _huge_. +It may very much be the most costly tech we will see in our lives. +It costs very little when we limit ourselves to _monetary value_. +It's a few bucks here, a few bucks there. +Anyone into subscriptions most likely already has bigger sinkholes. + +But that approach is significantly shortsighted; reduced to minimum. +The actual cost of the technology is far more reaching. + +Firstly, the development. +VCs all around the globe can't throw their money fast enough. +It seems that just adding "AI" to a shampoo gives significant chance of a hefty A series. +So much of the current world economy is based on the idea that one day all that investment will be paid. +Just look at the stock value of Nvidia! +It seems that just yesterday they were known primarily for overpriced graphic card for gamers. +But they were lucky, their product powered the last two big crazes - first crypto, now LLMs. + +The second aspect of this part of life cycle is the man power. +Just how many engineers are now tasked with integrating every, imaginable system with ChatGPT? +And how many product managers are forced to think of an idea of what that integration is supposed to do? +Those product are, almost aways, _worse_ in the process. +Even something as simple as Expensify became unusable when they changed their product into a chatbot. + +And then comes the running cost that will be paid by our children. +The environmental impact is unimaginable. +We're producing huge amounts of air pollution, using water and rare minerals like there's no tomorrow. +For the last century or so, we've abused our planet, but then we've decided that enough is enough. +Time to think of survival and become _green_. +All this is thrown out the window. +No survival of human race will stop Altman from becoming a multi billioner! + +Then there are the social costs. +We're just starting to see them, but it's already dreadfully. +LLM companies are treating all human creation as a free buffet, ignoring everything we've had before. +The web, as we grew to know and love, may soon come to an end. +Sometimes even I have hard time justifying existence of this site. +I have a lot of fun, do something here almost daily. +But in reality I make the _assholes_ richer, as they will harvest everything here and put in their huge data models. + +And, of course, people are starting to lose their jobs. +Not that many yet, as the CEOs need to be crazy enough, but it's starting. +And it will only get worse, as more and more product _promise_ automation. +Most likely it will happen before the promise is fulfilled, but that's beside the point. + +The costs are huge, but what are the benefits? +I've tried to read what all the proponents say, and the responses I've found differ very slightly: +some small auto generation, here and there. +Nothing grand, a few dozen minutes of manual labor each time - unless we're talking about image/multimedia generation. +You ma even get what you want it to be, assuming you've already got some experience in prompting. +Mind you, when an LLM works, it works like magic. +It is, however, not the case most of the time. +You get a result, you try to convince the machine that there is something wrong, you get a result, you find something and so on. +Up until it's ready for manual fixes. + +Looking at this, we've got a huge `c`, very small `v`. +If you say that this is worth it, your `N` needs to be huge. + +But there's this notion, that we're just at the start. +We've got the first version and there will be huge breakthroughs soon. +Either the cost needs to be decreased, or the value needs to skyrocket. +Both are possible. +There's enough money thrown for there to be more people working on those problems than there are scientists working on curing cancer. +Will they achieve anything of value? +We can _guess_, but guessing will not change the fact, that the current [bullshit machines](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10676-024-09775-5) are **not** worth it. + +But let's be realistic here: betting on _scientific breakthrough_ is not something a sane mind should do. +Especially not one data-driven! +Events like this rarely happen, and the unravel ChatGPT 2 proved that we've already witnessed one, just a few short years ago. +The next one may take years, or decades. +We will be paying the cost until the LLM craze ends, and perhaps it will not even destroy us before that. + +Personally, I am sure that AI Winter is inevitable. +And it will be winter like we've never seen before, as never before so much money was thrown into furnace. +There are _great_ uses of AI - just think of image recognition, or weather forecasting. +All of this may be lost, as one fucking Altman stole all the air from the room, just to burn us all in the process. +I am afraid that the winter will not only stop significant work on LLMs, but for general Artificial Intelligence. + +Note, that I ignore all the _risks_ here, and just look a the technology. +But the costs are even higher, as we should put things which it enables - disinformation for one. |